E hoje é dia de Tecnofeudália!
Hoje, 19 h. Muito se fala que as guerras modernas são travadas em telas, e o recente ataque dos EUA e Israel ao Irã ilustra isso de forma didática, com a IA ganhando protagonismo. O motivo foi a Anthropic se recusar a liberar o uso de sua tecnologia de IA para armas autônomas e para a “vigilância em massa de americanos” (que a empresa afirma já serem vetadas em contrato). Mas não se iludam: a Anthropic não é boazinha. O que acontece é que seu CEO afirma que, hoje, esses sistemas ainda não são confiáveis para essa tarefa. Ou seja, hoje não — mas quem sabe amanhã? Nesta terça vamos discutir os desdobramentos dessa história e tentar entender o papel das IAs nos conflitos modernos.
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Salve pessoal! Tem alguém que seja daqui de BH e tenha interesse em participar do FLISoL desse ano? Ou, melhor ainda, queira ajudar na organização do evento? Comenta aí pra gente ir conversando.
E aproveito pra saber se está rolando alguma discussão sobre a suposta ameaça ao software livre pelo ECA Digital. Estamos, inclusive querendo organizar um debate sobre isso no FLISoL aqui (que pode ter participações remotas).
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Angela Verônica, Ax=b, joles, malu, Em Alta no Fediverso, fran 🇱🇧🇧🇷, Elda King, Rafael "Tchulanguero" Paes, Fila do bumbum guloso, Tissa The Artista, Bea quer férias e joemattink Ⓐⓥ reshared this.
Adoro esculturas em pedra, especialmente nesse estilo, em que parte da rocha original é preservada. E esse sujeito traz um contraste lindo entre a brutalidade da rocha e a suavidade das curvas que ele esculpe. Amei isso!
E na thread original tem esse link dando mais detalhes do trabalho dele.
stoneworldtr.com/en/from-histo…
Matthew Simmonds, “Cathedral: Study” (2022)thisiscolossal.com/2026/03/mat…
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Historic Architecture Emerges from Stone in Matthew Simmonds Ethereal Sculptures
Carved marble and limestone reveal smooth, ornate interiors while highlighting the natural quality of the stone.Kate Mothes (Colossal)
Don't ever give elevated permissions to an Avian Intelligence...
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Well, they are, aren’t they?
Programs are poetry for computers, so … 😏
Good this detail was noticed! I was in doubt about it for a long time during the prod.
No need to worry — your judgment is sound. It's clear what the spell says. Thanks for another beautiful cartoon!
it's glorious, just subtle enough to miss it the first time and get hit by it even harder upon realization 
well, the order doesn't affect so everyone uses what they learned. But I don't have a fun mnemonic for "-rf" so...
I mean "remove, french style" sounds more expeditive! Bring the guillotines, we are purging this folder!
💫Please see Avian Intelligence Privacy Policy at hppc:\privacy.openai.parrot
>Broken link
💫You're right, that is not the correct URL. The correct URL is hppc:\privacy.openai.parrot/.
>That is not the correct
💫Thank you for accepting the Avian Intelligence Privacy Policy
yay, you made a story out of my comment! 
I feel honored ☺️
You're welcome!
BTW, for those curious, I was referencing this story.
"Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire hard drive."
haha nice one 😂.
One idea for future episode may be - the subscription nagging. After countless rephrasing, prompting and correction for making it understand your query. You want the answer for something too bad, you are out of credits. Upgrade to pro plan it is just 2 souls per month.
It's always these inexperienced people. Somewhere in the 1,000-page manual, there's bound to be a hidden note for this case: "Never let your AI run autonomously without AI.md attached. In this rule file, you write down fixed principles that your AI must adhere to."
This file may contain something like: Before each action, assess whether this action has potentially harmful consequences. Only carry out the action if two independent checks have not predicted any harmful consequences
I enjoy your Avian Intelligence comics in general, but this is my probably my favorite one yet!
Took me a bit to figure out the incantation, but it definitely got a chuckle out of me when I figured it out.
It took me a second, and then I laughed so hard. 🤣 Oh NOOO!
I like how she doesn't even get mad. She asked for it, after all!
I have a friend who's going to switch to Linux soon, and I warned him that if he asks AI a question about it, he should be very, very careful about the answer, and to avoid anything that says 'rm -rf' unless he means it, and what that command does. He understood. 
rm -rf /?
@David Revoy Oh my! 😁
I initially read the comic without giving too much thought about the incantation, but then I thought, “hum, I wonder if there’s a meaning in it?”, looked at it for a second…
“Wait, he didn’t…” (read the incantation out loud) “oh yes he did! 🤣 ”
Thanks for the laugh!
(On a more serious note, the outcome depicted in this comic could have been avoided if the parrot had been provided with some cat litter and a banana. Cat litter automatically enables --preserve-root, and bananas cause the filesystem to be mounted in read-only mode.)
Clearly inspired by the recent Amazon outage where their AI assistant deleted the code base. Or maybe one of dozens of other stories like that lol.
I have a similar scale for violence on screen:
- 1 instance of bloody dismemberment in 30 seconds: horrifying
- 10 instances of bloody dismemberment in 30 seconds: hilarious
Hoje tem o retorno do Tenofeudália! (sim, eu sei... com duas semanas de atraso e eu assumo a culpa)!
E a gente chega muito chique, em um programa conjunto com a Emi, do Orgulho Latino e, de quebra com a Elenira de convidada. Então já podem se programar, porque quem perder, vai perder! 😃
Hoje, 19 h. Tecnofeudália e Orgulho Latino se unem pra discutir a violência de gênero no ambiente digital.Thiago Skarnio, Frederico Guimarães e Emi Pandolfo recebem Elenira Vilella.
📍 Tema: Internet: O Novo Campo de Batalha das Mulheres
📅 Terça-feira, 10 de março • 19:00A violência não dá pausa. O debate também não.
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Tecnofeudália e Orgulho Latino se unem pra discutir a violência de gênero no ambiente digital.Thiago Skarnio, Frederico Guimarães e Emi Pandolfo recebem Elen...Portal Desacato (YouTube)
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Check out this interactive website by Nana Mgbechikwere N., showing BigTech and "AI" companies' media capture.
No wonder the public is getting misinformed.
They say its inspired by Surveillance Watch ❤️
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An interactive investigation into Big Tech and AI companies' funding relationships with journalism and media organizations.nananwachukwu.github.io
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After about twelve hours, the same post had received more than 300 shares and likes on Mastodon, while it had only been shared three times and liked four times on BlueSky.
I'm no social media expert, but it's amazing how reluctant people are to use Mastodon because of its lack of reach and interaction.
If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.
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Make fascism socially unacceptable again. Leave X.#LeaveX #JohnOliver #fascim #FarRight #Disinformation #HateSpeech #Democracy
@CarineMissiaen Howdy 👋. Here is "Mastodon in 180 seconds". A very good explanation on what is different here. And it gives a good guide on how to start 👍
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Lately, everyone seems to be trying to jump ship from Twitter to this new thing called "Mastodon". But when they do it, the first thing many of them say is "I don't get Mastodon. How does it work?"...Main tilvids channel (TILvids)
I want to reiterate a point they make in that video, your timeline is what *YOU* make of it. People here don't care about your followers count and they don't care about your post count.
Start by following hashtags, then as you find people whose commentary interests you, follow them and some of their hashtags, rinse and repeat... Follow who and what you want as your timeline is what you make of it.
@CarineMissiaen
hello Carine,
at first sight, you seem to have got fediverse perfectly right, you are here, speaking with people from different instances.
What you consider less intuitive ?
If I can give just a suggestion, without an algorithmic feed bringing you pre cooked content, you have to try to follow much more people, hashtag, lemmy forum compared to what you were used to in the ruined social
@CarineMissiaen @luca but you like dogs, like I do, and I often post her photos on my Pixelfed @everton137@pixelfed.social 🙂
By the way, I think you are going great! There are people interacting with you, and you joined a conversation.
Actually, I couldn't expect my post to generate so many replies.
P. S. A link with just the photos of my furry friend on my Pixelfed. I noticed I haven't shared photos of her recently.
The unofficial @FediTips can be very helpful in explaining the quirks of the various APIs in the fediverse.
@AlsoPaisleyCat @CarineMissiaen @luca
Carine, if you want any help with using this place please feel free to ask!
Also, there is lots of help on the website at fedi.tips 🙂
An unofficial guide to using Mastodon and the FediverseFediTips (Fedi.Tips - An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse)
@benroyce @engel
From what I see the Fediverse is what you want to make of it. You curate your own time line, letting some in and others out. I don't see why you can't keep the Fediverse the way you like it as long as you're willing to stay vigilant and/or switch instances when it's necessary.
It can remain a small neighborhood for you while others discover it.
Am I wrong on this point?
@MyWoolyMastadon @benroyce @engel
I don't think you're wrong: like life, the fediverse gives you back what you put into it.
Follow nobody, get nothing.
Spend a little time building you follow lists?
Value and fun ensue.
@oblomov @john @MyWoolyMastadon @engel
i would disagree in that what you say is true for something like twitter
but on the fediverse you have controls over who gets to see what
you may say "i just want to post and not worry about followers only" but then you lose the ability to complain about a post "escaping containment"
public is public
nothing in the world gives you the protection of privacy when *you* chose to go public
it's your due diligence to scope what you say up front
@MyWoolyMastadon @oblomov @john @engel
yeah there are these odd voices i hear sometimes on the topic of privacy saying arguments that can be distilled down to "i want to post in public, but i don't want anyone i don't like to see my posts"
so privacy defilements must be fought
but there is nothing, nothing in the world, in the most privacy respecting technological system possibly devised by humanity, that can protect you if *you* choose to say something in public
@macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @oblomov @john @engel
well there is a difference between something like mastodon, where what is public, is public (and always will be)
but in the back there's no slurping your DMs, and linking your private sign up info to your larger identity elsewhere in life, etc
that matters
and there's privacy controls, on what you post, instead of "post it for everyone or fuck you"
there's improvements to be made of course
why are you speaking of mastodon specifically?, I wonder. since it's all interconnected with various other Fediverse servers, any privacy guarantees necessarily depend on what other servers guarantee as well.
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zero argument
the solution to that as far as i see is a server pact that specifically excludes those servers running software that does not respect a baseline of privacy safeguards that we all agree are mandatory
i mean: truth social is mastodon software
we can't do anything about disrespectful servers except wall them off
we ideally look for technical solutions
but sometimes the only solution is a social choice
I'm not speaking of disrespectful or deviant servers, just pointing out that there may be diversity in the Fediverse, and it's offensive to me to make it all a mastodon-centered thing. I've been burned by mastodon's jerk moves before. Fediverse shouldn't bow to mastodon. mastodon doesn't make the rules. there's a standard that we all adhere to (except where mastodon doesn't)
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apologies but i really don't care if you dislike mastodon
mastodon is just mastodon, the good and the bad, i recognize both
the real topic here is a baseline of respect for privacy between servers
right?
could be running any software
the question of mastodon or not is immaterial to the essential topic here
it's not about mastodon, it's about the Fediverse. mastodon is just one of many servers that make it up.
when you speak of mastodon as if it was the Fediverse, you mislead people who might mistake them for the same thing.
when you speak of privacy features, you mislead people into believing only mastodon's features matter.
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that's a weird kind of shorthand, that isn't actually shorter 😉
not that I haven't seen such things before. some people claim Linux is a shorthand for GNU 🙂
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furthermore, we should stop conflating protocols and programs. that's been a disservice that has made exploitation easier even when back when people had choices but just didn't realize they existed. we should value and cherish the fact that there's an underlying protocol that many different programs can interoperate with. we don't want mastodon (or anyone) to be another microsoft, another google, any other entity that gains power over people by dictating under what terms they can communicate with others, and that can enshittify services to its own advantage whenever it sees fit. that's harder for mastodon to do because it's free software, but the centralization of power that mislabeling it all as mastodon sets things up for such bad outcomes. please don't do that.
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the discussion is about respecting a baseline of privacy, and i made the error of conflating the fediverse with mastodon, and i admit it
but what you're talking about now about monopolies is bullshit
even if it was a software/ protocol monoculture, server A does not control server B, and vice versa
and you are wrong: you DO want to impose standards
not from a centralized authority, but via servers cooperating
the problem of this sort of monoculture is not about one server controlling another, but of the software provider that dominates the network to have control over servers and users
when mastodon unilaterally broke compatibility with the protocol with which the Fediverse was born, to cut GNU social off before it caught up with ActivityPub, mastodon servers that upgraded stopped being able to talk to GNU social survivors
GNU social users had already endured the transition of identi.ca, then the central node of the Fediverse, from the Status.Net protocol to pump.io.
both moves created very significant disruption in the Fediverse, and broke connections between servers and, more importantly, between people.
both of them followed from centralization of power, in one case around a server instance, in another case around server software. both have been traumatic, but also value lessons to learn about things to avoid in a decent(ralized) network.
but I wouldn't say that I wish to impose standards. I'd be happy with voluntary adhesion. I welcome diversity, including the bridges and the other incompatible protocols that make up the broad Fediverse. but I disapprove of jerk, anti-competitive and anti-interoperation moves that sabotaged and cut off significant chunks of the Fediverse. may that be a lesson that we learn, remember, and don't forget, so that it doesn't happen again.
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"but of the software provider that dominates the network to have control over servers and users"
why does mastodon.social have to write it. it's open source. anyone can. someone should have
"but I wouldn't say that I wish to impose standards"
you are though: complete compatibility is your demand
"I welcome diversity"
i don't if it means truth social
i welcome collaboration. there's no centralization in that
I'll respond to your post from bottom to top
why the heck are you worrying about truth.social, that actually runs mastodon code but that was intentionally configured to not be interoperable and non-diverse, when you're talking to someone who uses a non-mastodon instance that actually increases server software diversity in the Fediverse?
I ask for interoperability as opposed to jerky rug-pulling. complete compatibility is not generally attainable even across different versions of the same program, and if you think I'm demanding that, we've miscommunicated.
what's with mastodon.social? I'm talking about the mastodon server software, not about the mastodon.social instance. that their server software gets installed by operators all over the Fediverse without much thought gives those who write the software a lot of power, arguably too much power. that they also control the largest instance, that you happened to mention by name, gives them further power, but not even close to as much as the fact that others just take their updates, even when they pull the rug from under large chunks of the Fediverse. that concentration of power, and their time-and-again shown limited regard for interoperability, are not healthy for the Fediverse.
now, I don't get what you meant by "have to write it". what's the "it" that mastodon.social has to write?!?
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i say truth social not meaning literally truth social. i mean any maliciously inclined server, like "freeze peach" bigot ones
interoperability is the responsibility of parties interested in that. since it's open source, someone should write that. if mastodon software doesn't have something you demand, then write it. depending upon mastodon is your error, it is not mastodon's error for not satisfying your demand
and if it removes something that interoperability depends on?
and if it introduces incompatible features that break interoperability?
if they decide they don't wish to collaborate or cooperate, like they have in the past, is it my fault that they decided to make jerk moves?
why should I even bother to send merge requests that revert the removals or the incompatible features, if they've already made it clear they don't want them?
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So fork it
If the demand exists for the capability, your fork will be the new standard
Regardless, even if it doesn't become the new standard, anyone who wants what you also want can use your fork
You can't be disappointed because you're assuming a relationship that does not exist
Of course you *can* be "disappointed" but it carries no weight
that's like saying we should fork threads or instagram or facebook. it wouldn't solve the interoperability problem that arises from intentional incompatibility from someone who has too much power and is willing to abuse it.
forking might give some choice to some instance operators, but it won't help the users who end up hurt in the cross fire of the jerk move, whether because they use an instance whose operator goes along with the jerk moves, or because they wanted to communicate with someone who does.
we have some safeguards because the software is free, and also because users can move.
but interoperability is not something that should be taken as lightly as mastodon has, and that it has because it could, because it was already big to care, big enough to start behaving like microsoft who figured they could reject ODF and force OOXML even while not being compatible with it; like google and facebook who interoperated through XMPP and then broke compatibility to make walled gardens.
if mastodon decides it wants to change the way users can move between instances, it could make it so that users could no longer move to instances that don't implement those changes, locking users in if/until other servers implemented compatible incompatibilities. that's the microsoft way, and it follows from having too much power. that power should be kept in check, not encouraged or defended.
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i won't, and can't, argue with you about the history of a topic i know nothing about
but i do know that mastodon has plenty of interop with other software projects. do those other projects have the interop you desire? if yes, then mastodon sucks. if no, maybe there's a technical reason
did these older projects you allude to keep up to date with reasonable standards?
mastodon has introduced deviations from the standards, and others have been pretty much forced to adopt the deviations to be able to interoperate with users of the this big bully
the older project I alluded to was catching up, perhaps more slowly than ideal, and then mastodon spit on the plate it ate from since inception, and pulled the plug to kill the healthy interoperation
I'm not telling you this for you to hate mastodon, but to illustrate what can happen when too much power accumulates even in a free software project, to keep such powers in check and to stop promoting mastodon (instead of the Fediverse as a whole) as if getting mastodon further power were a good thing
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breaking interoperability is not an improvement. whether it's adding a feature in an incompatible way, or dropping an entire protocol, it hampers communication. how can one possibly frame the dropping of an entire protocol as an improvement? the Fediverse has multiple protocols, keeping compatibility with them is not a problem, dropping it is. it's not like any one of them is superior to the other, they're just different, and extend the reach of the Fediverse. Friendica and GNU social are not dropping protocols as they gain support for other protocols. diversity is good. if mastodon weren't the dominant player, these jerk moves would be losing it ground because it would be less able to interoperate. it's abusing its power.
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"how can one possibly frame the dropping of an entire protocol as an improvement?"
if it is flawed
we drop protocols all the time with better protocols
"it's not like any one of them is superior to the other, they're just different"
i can't comprehend this argument. it is very true protocols have different capabilities, and some are objectively better than others
we're not talking about a single line of evolution of protocols, it's about entirely different protocols.
think SMTP (email) and XMPP (instant messaging). one doesn't replace the other.
think IMAP and POP. both serve roughly the same purpose, except IMAP offers a lot more possibilities, but discontinuing either one serves no purpose but prevent communication with servers that support one but not the other.
discontinuing support for Diaspora* or Status.Net or ActivityPub wouldn't make Friendica or Hubzilla better, it would just prevent communication.
imagine if Mastodon implemented AtProto (BlueSky) and then dropped ActivityPub. the former would increase interoperability, but the latter wouldn't make Mastodon better, it would just break compatibility with other ActivityPub implementations. it would fragment the Fediverse. that's what Mastodon did when it dropped Status.Net. it didn't make ActivityPub or Mastodon better, it just burned bridges. it kicked the ladder after climbing it. it's indefensible.
you can try by making up and pulling absurd, baseless arguments out of your hat, but that doesn't look great. it shows not only your ignorance, but also your blind faith on a project that has already shown not to deserve it, and your determination to defend its jerk moves by making things up.
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@lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @oblomov @john @engel
with capitalist endeavors, you can buy domination. so something may be inferior, but still prevail. there's also the "kill" competitors mindset
you're bleeding that world into a zero profit environment and thus failing to make a cogent argument
if somebody wants a feature, they should write it. it will get adopted if people want it
maybe nobody wants what you want
and you can't make demands, you're not a "customer"
sure, maybe people don't want a decentralized interoperable social network.
maybe mastodon presenting itself as such is just a way to fool the few people who do.
or maybe people want that, but there are dominant capitalist powers that prevent them from getting it.
maybe dominant capitalist powers are implementing features that serve their own purposes, rather than users', and using their market influence to push it down users' throats.
maybe mastodon is playing like one of them.
maybe you just have no clue of how important these issues are and are handwaving market dominance truisms to defend mastodon's stance as if it were cool for mastodon to behave like a market bully.
maybe what's best for those who dominate markets aren't best for users.
maybe your defending abuse of monopoly power doesn't look as good on you as you seem to think it does.
maybe siding with that dominance with come back and bite you.
maybe you'll learn from that experience then.
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@lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @oblomov @john @engel
how is mastodon playing capitalism? do you see the absurdity of your narrative?
go ahead, despise mastodon. in a capitalist environment, angry customers are a problem. but there are no customers here. you can make no demands. they don't owe you anything
furthermore, you are not locked out:
if you want something, write it yourself. simple as
your anger is misplaced and depends upon a paradigm that doesn't apply here
you brought up capitalism, not me
my argument was one of power dynamics, and if you don't see mastodon play it, you're not paying attention
in general, free software doesn't enable such abusive power dynamics, but there are exceptions: when the software is operated by someone else, in SaaSS or SaaSS-like arrangements
a huge fraction of mastodon users are using it in just this sort of arrangement.
even users of other programs in the interoperable network are vulnerable to the whims of a dominant player who abuses its power.
picture a bank, or a phone company, that becomes so dominant that it figures it can start rejecting transactions or calls coming from or going to competitors, and that, by doing so, it can attract more customers rather than repel them
the one thing that should stop them is the requirement to abide by the interoperation protocols to be part of the network. if they get too big to care, or even so big that not caring plays to their advantage, that spells trouble for the network, and the network risks becoming their walled garden as other players get excluded, not because customers prefer them, but because they're forced to play with them.
do you see that this will hurt non-customers?
do you see that market forces alone can't prevent that sort of abuse?
do you not see that making alternatives doesn't solve problems when market forces are abused to exclude alternatives?
why the heck do you defend that kind of abusive behavior?
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@lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @oblomov @john @engel
You brought up capitalism. Not in word but in how you describe what mastodon is doing. But it doesn't work because there is no capitalism here. Your error is in applying the wrong paradigm for how the space we are in operates
"the one thing that should stop them is the requirement to abide by the interoperation protocols to be part of the network"
propose the mechanism. assemble the interested parties. make it happen
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
Of course. but since what shapes this environment is not driven by money there is no impediment for Alexandre to address an unaddressed desire, build for it, and people will flock to it.
If it is desired.
Otherwise if mastodon broke some compatibility, and no one reacts with new code, then it means no one cared.
What was broken? Maybe it was to implement a new desired feature. Why didn't the older projects adapt?
it did. but by the time it was done with it, mastodon had already pulled the rug and disrupted communication, hurting users on both sides because it could, because it wanted to weaken the other project.
that's abusing market dominance, with similar tricks capitalist dominant players use
why does it matter whether they do so for money, for power, for fame, for ego?
their rationale doesn't matter. what matters is that it hurts users and the network!
you seem to have got the wrong idea that the problem is some feature.
the problem is disregard for the health of the network.
that's not something I or anyone can fix when there is a dominant player that doesn't care, or worse, who actively sets out to hurt other players.
whether they add or remove stuff in ways that break interoperability, that gains them more dominance by abuse of the dominant position, and it hurts others, not only their own users, but users of other interoperable players, and the network at large.
the reason we build standards and interoperable networks is to avoid this sort of abuse.
when we tolerate that kind of abuse, we allow them to defeat the point of such a network.
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
you build something. people use it. or not. beginning and ending of discussion
you have a desire for some interop. so fork mastodon and build it. if people want it, they dump mastodon for your project
that's the entire topic in a nutshell
it does not matter your complaints in anyway whatsoever
networks and protocols come and go
normal and natural
old projects die. new projects are born
you're shouting at clouds
@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
furthermore, someday mastodon will die
replaced by some newer project that has features mastodon users have been clamoring for and were never addressed
i hope at such time i have the foresight to not become a bitter old man shouting at clouds angry at the natural progression of things
you're not angry at mastodon
you're angry at life
I'm not angry. not at mastodon, not at you, and definitely not at life.
I'm disappointed at people who hold unwarranted beliefs, who are so keen on defending bad antisocial practices that they won't even realize the underlying problem, and will fall in the same traps over and over without learning to recognize them
we're supposed to learn from others' experiences to avoid having to get hurt ourselves
I respect your choice to not listen. I hope it doesn't hurt too much.
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
Alexandre, you have a limited time on this planet. As do I, as do us all
You need to pick your battles
And you need to have good tactics
I understand the nature of your complaint. And I'm telling you, as long as we're not in a capitalist environment (thank God), all you can do is build as you wish things to be
You can't demand others adhere as you wish, when you have no leverage over them
Just build it yourself
as long as you insist that the solution is building (presumably software, or perhaps a network), I can't help the feeling that we're miscommunicating
the software and the network already exist. we could and can talk because we're using this interoperable decentralized network, each one of us using software of our own choice, talking to each other by a largely standardized protocol. none of these require building because they already exist and are satisfactorily operational
the problem is that the present configuration is unstable, because of the concentration of unchecked power
you seem to have mistaken my call for action as an attack on mastodon
I presume you like mastodon very much to feel a need to jump in front of it to defend it from a perceived attack
I'm not attacking it, though. I'm illustrating the concentration of power as a demonstration of the need for the action I'm calling for, both because of what the concentration of power enables it to do, and because it has already done such things.
my call for action is not to attack mastodon, nor to leave it behind, but to keep its power in check, to understand that the interoperability is valuable and to make that clear to mastodon developers, so that they don't even think of misusing that power in their hands to break interoperability and dismantle the Fediverse that we all rely on; so that by reflex they reject any such destructive ideas.
that kind of clarity about user demands and expectations is something that needs building, and that's exactly what I've been trying to do, in the (vain?) hope that mastodon users will listen, understand, and keep that power in check
I know very well that I can't demand anyone to adhere, and I have no leverage over mastodon users, operators and developers. but mastodon users and operators have leverage over mastodon developers, in as much as mastodon developers get their influence (the power I've been talking about) and their funding largely from these users and operators in this interoperable network.
does that make sense to you? do you see now why your earlier advice didn't make sense to me?
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
"the problem is that the present configuration is unstable, because of the concentration of unchecked power"
Alexandre, before mastodon there were other projects. were they perfect? no. mastodon came and people liked it enough to switch. is mastodon perfect? no
people are improving on it
things will change again
i utterly reject your depiction of mastodon as if it is a capitalist centralized entity. it's bullshit
I can't imagine where you got this "capitalist centralized entity" and why you keep going back to it, but I give up, I can't seem to get the threat to the fediverse out of this power concentration through to you, or, more importantly, how to keep it in check. maybe you're not ready for it, or you don't want to be, whatever. you're not telling me anything new, and I can't get to you something that would clearly be new to you, so I'll leave you alone now. have a good one.
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
that's correct. i am not ready for it, and i never will be
because what you're saying is bullshit
the problem is you talk in terms of power and leverage that does exist in a noncapitalist environment
just because mastodon is popular doesn't grant it any power
all someone has to do is write something better and people will flock to that instead. what magical hold do you think mastodon possesses? there is none
power has existed since very long before capitalism came to be
mastodon developers make the changes that thousands of instance operators trust blindly, which affect all their users. they also control the largest instance of the fediverse and all of their users.
that is power. not absolute power, but power nevertheless. it doesn't make them prisoners, but it is control over some aspects of their digital lives.
I take it that you're not familiar with the notion of free software, of control over one's own computing, and how ceding it gives others power over your computing and thus your life.
even though mastodon is free software, most mastodon users don't have control over the software that runs the instances they use. this means those who control the instances and the software on them have power over the users.
that power exists even if you don't believe it, even if you call it bullshit.
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
what power?
if twitter does something nefarious, people are trapped, there are no choices
if mastodon does something nefarious, boom: everyone goes to another project
this environment is completely consensual and voluntary
everything is open. the code is open. the fediverse is full of infosec people who would notice shenanigans in an instant
your brain is stuck in business mode. and this is not a business
it seems very naïve to me to assume that power only arises in business relationships. have you never heard of abusive relationships that aren't business relationships?
you seem to be projecting your own business prejudices on me. I'm not at all reasoning in terms of business. my reasoning is about community power dynamics.
surely you've heard of network effects. that's one factor. if people were to move to another network, they'd leave their contacts and their post histories behind, just like they do when they leave Xitter behind. that costs them (not money), so they're less likely to take the leap.
even moving to another server within the same network leaves history behind (another discouraging cost), and depends on working interoperable move
since they don't have control over the servers they use, if the server gets so enshittified as to motivate them to want to move out they might find that the changes also prevent them from moving seamlessly to other servers that haven't been so enshittified
this won't get them stuck, but will require them the painful process of rebuilding all of their connections elsewhere. that's another discouraging cost.
as I said, it's not absolute power, but it is power nevertheless. not business power, not capitalist power, but some control over others' lives through the software they use that's not under their own control.
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
"if people were to move to another network, they'd leave their contacts and their post histories behind"
you do understand you can xfer your mastodon account to say, gotosocial? migrate followers? even import your comment history?
you wave your hands and conjure up this dark and stormy menace...
that isn't remotely real
"but some control over others' lives"
none. absolutely none
no lock in
no network effect
of course I do. you can transfer it to snac as well. as long as the originating server cooperates. which is only a given as long as it is interoperable. got it?
you need to read up a little (or a lot) more about enshittification and about the nonfree software control tricks that even free software developers sometimes attempt to resort to when they control servers that their users rely on
I sort of wish I could live in your dream world. but it's not real.
not unless you make it so, by exerting the kind of pressure over mastodon that is needed for it to keep interoperable despite the power and the temptations to abuse it.
but I guess that's asking for too much of you, when you can't even see the risk. and then, it's far more comfortable to assume the leopard will never bite your own face, isn't it?
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you know they (and only they) can change how the server you rely on behaves, right?
I've already told you that they've already broken interoperability a few times
try to think about the consequences of that for a while, instead of going one more time into instant denial. I believe you can do that.
have a good night
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
i'm married
my wife could poison my soup at any time
i don't worry about it because i didn't marry a psychotic murderer
whenever you enter into a relationship, in any conceivable system, you place some kind of trust in another party
mastodon is absolutely capable of doing all sorts of vile nasty things
but they aren't going to do it
because they are decentralized social media
not elon musk in a eugen rochko mask
I presume your wife has never poisoned anyone
mastodon has broken interoperability. intentionally. more than once.
they're not the same.
I'm not saying mastodon is like Xitter or F*k
far from it
(it could be bought by them, but I'm not even going there)
but there is a risk, that can be mitigated by not pretending they're angels, and rather realizing they face pressures and they may sometimes come up with rationalizations to break interoperability again.
they know they can because they're dominant, and they've shown they know it by having done it a number of times
users should mount pressure against their making such jerk moves, is what I'm saying
do you by any chance support their making such jerk moves? it fells like maybe you do
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
i don't think they're angels
but i don't think they're demons
and your broken interop argument is suspect to me
new features require new interop. did mastodon prevent the old projects from writing code to work with new features? or did the old projects just kind of decline?
because this argument that interop has to be set in stone is nonsense
interop will always be changing for new features
I don't think they're demons either
they're human. and corporate.
they dropped an interop protocol to harm other fediverse servers before they had their AP implementation ready. typical anti-competitive jerk move. that move didn't provide any advantage whatsoever to their own users, only harm to those who used to be able to communicate with other fediverse users through the dropped protocol, but lost their connections.
what's suspect about that? that it doesn't fit your angelical expectations about mastodon?
new features can generally be added in ways that don't break compatibility, and that's important. everyone else has to take that path, because they're not dominant, and it happens quite often. mastodon, for being dominant, can afford to impose incompatibilities on everyone else. that's the Microsoft way, the Google way, not the fediverse way, not the interoperable community way.
we who care about community, about community-developed standards, and about the interoperability that enables us to choose what software we use to communicate, should make pressure such as:
masto,don't even think of abusing your dominant position
🙂
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
"what's suspect about that? that it doesn't fit your angelical expectations about mastodon?"
more like it's suspect it doesn't fit with your demonic expectations about mastodon
i say: build whatever the fuck you want, fuck interop, and if people want a feature that isn't supported somewhere else: oh well. the other project better play catch up with the new feature
that has nothing to do with pro- or anti- mastodon
@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
let's say someone has an extraordinary new featureset everyone loves and they jump on the new project
before long mastodon declines and the new project has millions
does mastodon get to say it's not fair that they broke the network for the new featureset?
or should mastodon just adapt to what everyone wants?
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
i blame the ecosystem
if i build a new feature, and it's awesome, and people want it, fuck interop
everyone else should change their code to get in line with the new feature
this idea of "we have to do interop first" means nothing new can be built without buy in from everyone else. there's no governing body, so some project will drag it's heels. so just ignorant them and build it anyway
that's a very naïve view of how interop influences perceptions and choices in a network or market with a dominant player
when the dominant player makes an incompatible change, everyone else is at fault for not keeping up
when someone else makes an incompatible change, nobody moves to it because it can't even talk to the dominant player where nearly all of their friends are
even when the dominant player drops an interop feature, some misguided people will find a way to blame the victims
incompatible features is not the way to evolve an interoperable network; it's the way to fragment it and kill it. the term in standards circles is Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish. you may have come across that before.
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
i just don't understand the inability to understand: nobody cares
we do whatever the fuck we want. we answer to no one
and yet you act like there is some sort of structure, obligations, checks and balances
nonsense
this is anarchy. this is open source. no one owes you anything
no company. no salary. no hierachy. just people doing *whatever the fuck they want*
all of your complaints mean nothing
nobody cares
that's exactly the problem. users should be aware of the risks, and care about them, checking the developer's power over them.
we do whatever the fuck we want. we answer to no one
that's exactly the unchecked power I'm speaking of.
and yet you act like there is some sort of structure, obligations, checks and balances
with great power, comes great responsibility
if you extend your implementation recklessly, you undermine the very network you depend on to exist.
it kills the goose that lays golden eggs.
but if the developers don't see that, users who care about the network could and should help them see it.
this is anarchy. this is open source. no one owes you anything
this is true
that's why my argument is based on alignment of self interests
users want a working, interoperable network
mastodon wants users for influence and funding
mastodon has power over users because code is law, and most users don't control their servers
users check that power by making it clear that they care about the diverse network with interop
nobody owes you anything, but if they want something from you collectively, you collectively have some leverage
don't waste it, but use it intelligently, is what I'm asking, so that we have a healthier network even if mastodon developers don't care about the goose's health
this is community power dynamics with intelligent checks and balances in collective pursuit of self interests
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
there's no power!
open source
anarchy
people build whatever
people use whatever
whatever happens, happens
no chain of command, no network of obligations
and you continue to insist you have a position to stand on that says "somebody owes me"
they don't owe you shit. no one owes me shit. no one owes anyone shit
no one can tell you what to do. no one can tell me what to do
please understand where you are
dude, wake up
nobody owes you or me
but they have interests in us
so we have leverage
it's stupid to not use it to keep this network that we like healthier, if the developers don't care about the network, but care about getting users
please understand where you are, as you say
or remain stubborn and miss opportunities to actually defend what you evidently enjoy
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
alexandre:
enjoy advocating for interop with a dead protocol
killed by tech improvement for better features
no sorry, killed just because mastodon is unrelenting evil
go for it
you have massive leverage, and a completely airtight rationale for doing so
you're missing the point. I wonder if you're that dense, or just playing it
I'm not advocating for an old but functional protocol. that was a fscking example of a jerk anti-competitive anti-interop move from a time when the protocol was still in very active use.
removing it didn't bring any better features, and claiming that it did makes you sound clueless
I by myself have very little leverage. we collectively could have a lot, if there weren't anti-leverage jerk defenders among us.
solidarity is valuable where I come from
you know what we say about citizens or workers who fight against their own rights?
it applies to netizens as well
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activity…
read the second paragraph ^^^
"removing it didn't bring any better features" is just a straight up lie
you insist mastodon abandoned ostatus because cackling moustache twirling evil
when all they did was implement new features
alexandre you're losing credibility
mastodon implemented AP, which brought new features
then it worked with both protocols for a while, and benefited from the interop
then it removed OStatus, which was a jerk move that didn't bring any features whatsoever
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it's so impossible that it happened. go figure!
mastodon had a full implementation of AP in release 1.6. then it dropped OStatus in release 3.0.
and it's not even the only case of multi protocol support. friendica and hubzilla implement multiple different protocols. so does dovecot (imap, pop, and more). oh, look, browsers also support multiple protocols: http, https, ftp, ... Emacs ange-ftp supports all of these plus ssh and rsync and more. http servers typically support multiple versions of http, and openssh has supported multiple versions of the ssh protocol.
they don't go about making up problems that don't exist, and inventing impossibilities that aren't there.
it takes a lot of wrong assumptions to conclude it can't be done to defend the indefensible.
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
alexandre:
activitypub does restricted-audience messages
ostatus does public, broadcast-style messages
you can't use ostatus with mastodon
it's simply impossible
you've lost credibility on this topic in my eyes
you just seem to be arguing stubbornly rather than admitting fault when you must to be considered seriously
it's perfectly fine to admit fault
i screw up all the time
and then i admit it
you can too
it's so simply impossible to use mastodon with OStatus that it was supported until 3.0 removed it.
it's so simply impossible that, before AP was introduced, there was only OStatus in mastodon
this is really wild! you got an infinite improbability drive over there?
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
"it's so simply impossible to use mastodon with OStatus that it was supported until 3.0 removed it."
yes, because mastodon improved their software to do something that was impossible with ostatus
why are you still arguing? do you not see the folly? this is all very obvious
you mean direct messages?
release 2.6 revamped support for them. this means they were already supported before.
2.6 was a while before 3.0. I can tell because 2 < 3.
mastodon supported OStatus, and did direct messages, presumably just not with OStatus
this is not so hard to understand
such things happen all the time with programs that care about interoperability
you know that file you saved with an old word processor
you can still load it with a newer word processor, despite the addition of new features
you may even be able to save it back for the older word processor to be able to load it, but newer features may be discarded
it's not rocket science, just good engineering that benefits users
now, I guess I know why you are arguing
I assume you're not trying to embarrass yourself, and that you're not as stupid as you're pretending to be, so I must conclude you're trolling
it's not cool to troll a person who's autistic and tends to interpret things literally
you seemed nice at first
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maybe ask mastodon developers how they managed such a feat
you may want to ask GNU social developers as well
or maybe do your own research, instead of embarrassing yourself
you're destroying your reputation as a knowledgeable person on matters of software, if you had any
me dá vergonha alheia
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
Eu estava pensando no efeito Dunning-Kruger
Seriously you both are clowns
You just drop support for antiquated tech. Completely normal and expected
This is the most hilarious farce of a thread I've been in in awhile. I thank you for the entertainment
funny how this excuse doesn't work for other incompatibilities mastodon introduced, no?
dunning-kruger indeed
you think they're lazy, incompetent, or malicious?
hint: can't be lazy because removing ostatus took plenty of work
hint: can't be incompetent because it largely works
hmm...
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nope. they implemented AP, a different protocol with different properties
AFAIK ostatus compatibility was not broken until they removed it
even if it was the same protocol, there are plenty of programs, both servers and clients, that support multiple versions of protocols, and even multiple protocols. that's no excuse
it's not even like they're unaware or incompetent to implement compatible extensions, as they've done that a number of times when it suited them
other fediverse implementations support multiple protocols to this date
sorry to say but you're wrong wrong wrong
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
Ok you win
You've humbled me Alexandre
I deeply apologize
I underestimated the heroic passion you have for a substandard antiquated protocol
Next time I see Don Quijote charging at a windmill, I will stand aside and shed a tear for his brave fight for what is truly truly important and consequential in this world
I myself am deeply disappointed that mastodon has no support for NNTP and AOL messenger
🤣
Ok you win
this conversation has no winners, only losers
I deeply apologize
I accept whatever truth there is in your apologies
I myself am deeply disappointed that mastodon has no support for NNTP and AOL messenger
just build them 🙂
here, take my map with plenty of windmills 🙂
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cabeça de vento
nice signature 😛 😀
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
i already answered that point. You can scroll up and read sunshine. But for the sake of your sundowning dementia: no one gives a flying fuck about an antiquated protocol except 2 absurd characters with the most hilarious obsession
but don't mind me and my sharp language. Remember i'm a google goon, libertarian moron, projection dependent, immoral drunk driver apologist
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it's "simply impossible" for you to be that many things
per your own theory, you can only be one thing 😛
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
No theory friend. Reality
New tech rises. Old tech dies
Hey lots of people enjoy old tech
You can run an ostatus project and enjoy yourself. It's a perfectly fine hobby
You might notice that aficionados of say, the Commodore 64, aren't so delusional that they demand in great high holy indignation that all modern webpages be renderable in a browser running on commodore OS on an 8 bit system
Engraçado pra caramba!
did you see the renewed C64?
commodore.net/
it can still run 40+yo programs
just a few more years and they're going to be in the public domain
how's that for backward compatibility?
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
i think that's fucking awesome
but just so you know, this is not exactly a major product line, in case you think you're making a counterpoint
otherwise, if you're just interested in concluding the laughfest thread for today, we can leave it at this high note
it was fun!
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
Oh dear
Oblomov is signalling in their dishonest way that they concede the point I am making and so now they must meekly retreat and allude to other topics
Come on, I want to hear more about the
*ethical implications*
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Of rote simple tech progress, better and more features, in social media protocols
must... resist...
I don't think I want to go there
ethics seems to be a very alien topic for you
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
well it's true life and death have many ethical related issues
however, life and death are inescapable facts of existence
usually though the ethics comes up when we're talking about living things, rather than networking protocols. it would be quite absurd to do that
GNU social with OStatus handled such big threads much better ;-P
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
I have a better answer:
You just drop support for ostatus
Because no one gives a shit except some hilariously absurd don quixote characters with the stupidest fucking axe to grind
Once we had CD players. Now we have memory sticks. No one remotely sane complains that they can't stick a CD into a USB port
It's called tech progress
Seriously you two are the biggest clowns
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel I'm sorry, but that's bullshit AND toxic. You can absolutely have progress AND interop. Whether you choose to do it the ethical way or not tells everything you need to know about the developers.
Every other project has to bend over backwards to be compatible with Mastodon, but Mastodon doesn't even do the bare minimum to be compatible with other platforms. This is basically the definition of abuse of power.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
you have no idea what you're talking about. there is no power, because there is no system
you act like this is hierarchy, where mastodon, any project, owes something. they don't owe anyone anything. they do whatever the fuck they want. it's a flat nonsystem
this is open source
yet you think you can ring some office in a structure, complain, and get results
there's no money
there's no boss
understand where you are
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
This is bullshit. Power dynamics exist in any context where two or more people or groups interact.
Open sources has nothing to do with it. What really matters are numbers, and you can assess the ethos of developers based on their attitude towards the rest of the ecosystem and whether or not it changes when they are the underdog or not.
Also, *especially* in Mastodon case, there absolutely IS money involved
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
Regarding the ethos, compare how Mastodon behaved when it was a newcomer with very few users vs how it behaves now. When it got started, the federation protocol was OStatus, which was massively underspecified (even worse than ActivityPub), so the only way to join the network was to do what the others were doing, especially the dominant (= most used) implementation at the time, Status.Net (GNU Social).
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
And Mastodon absolutely DID care about interop with Status.Net *at the time*. Then it grew in numbers, opted to switch to ActivityPub and gave Status.Net compatibility a big middle finder, because now *IT* was the dominant implementation in the Fediverse space, and decided it didn't need to worry about OStatus compatibility anymore, as it wouldn't lose users to it.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
And they *still* don't care about interop with other Fediverse platforms that DO use ActivityPub. For example, Mastodon properly handles Note objects. The official excuse is that Mastodon is a microblogging platform, but it's a piss-poor excuse, since it CAN handle the EXACT SAME CONTENT if it's presented as a Note rather than an Image or Article.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
Supporting other types would be TRIVIAL (look at the mediaType rather than the object type to see if you can handle it), but the devs don't care, so the OTHER platforms had to bend over backwards and present Image and Article objects as if they were Notes (a violation of the standard) to make content visible to Mastodon users, even if a trivial change in Mastodon could have handled this.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
But it's even worse actually: now that WordPress is joining the Fediverse, and that's 600M potential users dwarfing the Mastodon numbers, NOW Mastodon devs suddenly start thinking «hm mayb we should support incoming Article objects». Why only Article and why only now? Because of power dynamics.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
The fact that Mastodon only cares about interop when it's the underdog shows the shitty ethos of its leadership and developers.
It is about about power AND it is about numbers AND —ESPECIALLY for Mastodon— it is about MONEY. Because if people move to other platforms Mastodon loses users, loses control, and its PAID developers lose their income stream from donations.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
So you see minor Fediverse platforms working on improving interoperability, improving data and profile portability, giving users control to freely move between servers and platforms, and Mastodon NOT GIVING A SHIT and you still go to all these lengths to defend it, well, it says more about you than anything else.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
If you think the possibility to migrate accounts is what I'm talking about, you have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Hello! This is a discussion thread for the proposed FEP-ef61: Portable Objects. Please use this thread to discuss the proposed FEP and any potential problems or improvements that can be addressed.SocialHub
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
i don't care
no one fucking cares
people build things, and they work or not, and they are adapted or not
there's no obligations here. there's no heirarchy here. no one owes you, or me, or anyone else anything
welcome to open source. it's anarchy
and you act like you're in a board room meeting
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
ok i want you to imagine that i'm not ben royce. i'm elon musk in a rubber mask
whatever you need to tell yourself because i present to you the horrible idea that causes pain in your mind that there are no system of obligations in open source
whatever you need to tell yourself about my malicious demonic intentions
it's a farce
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel
because ostatus is old shit! no dms. no privacy controls. etc. they didn't ditch ostatus, ostatus is an old car and they built a new car
you're absolutely absurd
"you MUST maintain your old car and you cannot leave it rotting in your garage!"
new and better and replaces old and busted. old and busted is not deserving of anything
and someday the same will happen to mastodon
no one will cry then, no one cries now
hmm, maybe the "it" was compatibility with GNU social?
that compatibility was in Mastodon from day one. it was there before ActivityPub came to exist.
but Mastodon decided to drop it, to break compatibility with other instances with diverse servers that still used the original Fediverse protocol
that's not collaboration. that's sabotage. and it was only possible because of the very centralization of power I'm speaking of.
@lxo
it was dropped for any number of reasons. malice, incompetence, just not caring. and you want it. so you write it. and then it gets adopted
the double edge sword of open source is you can do whatever you want. but also there is no business hierarchy that is responsive to your demands
you do not pay mastodon. so they have no obligation to meet your demands
you're thinking in yerms of business relationships. but there is none here. they can't disappoint you because they don't owe you
@MyWoolyMastadon @engel
not only are you not wrong, you reveal the idiocy of this "i don't want the fediverse to grow" foolishness
as you say, you simply make of the fediverse what you want. it's size elsewhere or not on some other servers has zero bearing on your experience
so people who "want to keep the fediverse small" are doing nothing but stating an absurdity at best. they aren't engaged coherently
@benroyce
It can easily stay small. If someone joins a small instance and only looks at the feed of people they follow, voila - small Fedi.
@xinit @MyWoolyMastadon @engel
exactly
the whole topic is a nontopic
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Not wrong. I do feel a pang of guilt if I mute someone who is posting in a different language, though. Or is posting a lot of tech based fixes or informatiin abuut specificprograms, buyt I am not technical at all.
And, you know, the whole three years of HS French that I don't remember!
At the risk of being the stereotypical "reply guy", sample size of one post can have misleading results. 😀
Amount of boosts/reposts for any given post is as much about having a good message and enough followers, as well as about pure luck, since most people's feeds are moving quickly, and they do not spend all their time glued to their social apps.
It seems weird that Bluesky, whose raison d'etre was "Twitter, but not evil" would have users this disinterested in this topic. 🤷
@_elena Maybe Bluesky has a completely different "usage culture"
More passive consumption and less interaction.
More uni-directional broadcasting from "content creators" to "consumers", and less conversation?
But hm, that would explain fewer replies, but probably not fewer reposts and likes.
Being no expert, it really seems very strange. Maybe Bluesky is just dead and full of bot squads which only allow certain kinds of messaging to go viral? I hope not!
@_elena This! Bluesky in it's history was exactly designed as Dorsey's Twitter was. It it wasn't for Musk then Twitter would have been what Bluesky (the app) is today.
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@thomas_klopf
i'ts not possible for me to disagree with you more
essentially what you are doing is surrendering the mass of society to plutocrat manipulation and control
of course we don't want bigots here. and moderation will nuke them
but otherwise we want as many people as possible on mastodon
and frankly, if you disagree, you are foolish
are you really happy with the great mass of your society under the algorithmic control of musk and zuckerberg?
The post is good for mastodon but sucks for bluesky.
I have posts that explode on bsky and bomb on the mastodon side. And I say same post literaly
the metrics are part of the problem.
The web 2.0 era metrics are ubiquitous, and quantitative. And, on centralized platforms, are gamed at first by people run bots, now by ai bots.
And algorithms.
I don't know how bluesky curates content.
On mastodon, I do my own curation and dip in the fediverse often.
Because I am interested in quality, not quantity.
That is a human thing. Because something is popular does not mean it is right or good.
There are some topics which seem to do super well on Mastodon and not so much on BlueSky.
AI is another topic that does well on mastodon, but not so much on other social media.
@McWabbit and on my timeline Mastodon is growing pretty steady.
For years I use the global number of notifications/day as indicator.
Where early 2025 it was around 100 on a good day, later it was 100 on average and begin 2026 many days 130-150.
(Numbers only say much about the posts itself. It is the interaction on the post that count and have a wide range per post.)
I would not quite say that no advertisers would use it. The server I started on had a lot of advertisements, a lot automated advertisements.
That server has since gone away, but it was there and spamming the local timeline with ads for whatever, including sexual congress.
I go both ways, so I went ahead and boosted you on BS.
there's no algorithm, but a hell of a lot of blocklists and starter packs now, so maybe that played a role.
anyway - I hope such 'helpers' don't come here, and cripple my ability to 'curate my own feed'.
Commercial and algorithm based platforms can’t be public squares.
A for-profit algorithm is shaped by spectacle and engagement, not discourse.
They only offer an illusion of a town square.
I have no faith that there is fair content surfacing in an ecosystem where all the following factors are true:
A. Algorithmic feeds
B. VC / Advertising based funding
C. Platforming and verifying fascists
A + B + C = Content Supression. Every time. There's incentive to squelch who fascists dont like.
Posting in for profit spaces who accept the money and/or social brand reach of fascists is akin to trying to get the word out by yelling while someone covers your face with a pillow. Yelling in a pillow can be cathardic, but no one else is gonna hear.
A committed female journalist who campaigns for feminism and against BigTech recently had the following interactions for a post/trööt that she posted identically on Mastodon and Bluesky
On Mastodon
1 Like
0 Quotes
2 Retweets
2 Comments
On Bluesky
831 likes
10 Quotes
214 Reposts
23 comments
12 Bookmarks
But hey, if Elon Musk is a more relevant person for you to talk about, then so be it.
@fedinaut it would be interesting to check her posts to check the topic and the dynamic of interactions.
I wish we didn't need to talk about the richest individual on earth trying to destroy democracies.
it would be interesting to check her posts to check the topic and the dynamic of interactions.
Interesting, suddenly you want to look into that more closely.
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In a recent comparison of engagement around a Leave.X campaign post,[1] someone pointed out that a female journalist who is active in the feminist movement and critical of Big Tech had a very different experience than others.The Mastodon post was shared twice, while the Bluesky version was shared over 200 times and received significantly more interactions. This raises questions about tech-savvy spaces like Mastodon and how they reflect broader societal issues.
For women on Mastodon:
Do you feel that the patriarchal dynamics and male behavior in this space, which is still largely dominated by white men, make it harder for women to participate?
#Mastodon #Diversity #Fediversity #Fediverse #Feminism #BlueSky #Inclusion
If we bring more people here, the Fediverse could become the de facto public square.
public institutions should switch to the fediverse and leave x behind. this would automatically increase the relevance of the network just like it did with twitter.
but convincing "normal" people to switch to some fediverse platform? i don't think this will work. all those who are still left outside the fediverse are folks who are totally out of their depths when having to choose one fediverse server to create an account for them? those people are totally fine to lecture you for hours on the intrinsic differences of certain car types oder different brands of makeup or breakfast cereal. but when told: "choose on of these servers, create an account and start" they all play dead whining :"what? how .. how should i do this?? i don't understand!?" ... and all the tech journalists join them in their wailing ...
🐦🌽 We often think of ancient empires being built on gold or military might, but the Chincha Kingdom of #Peru thrived on bird #poop.
New #research shows these coastal people used nitrogen-rich seabird guano to supercharge their corn harvests 800 years ago, creating a wealthy society so successful that the #Inca Empire eventually integrated them without a single battle.
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💁🏻♀️✨ Golden Kingdoms: Luxury and Legacy in the Ancient Americas thekidshouldseethis.com/post/t…
#archaeology #science #history #wildlife #agriculture #nature #ecology
The Chincha Kingdom likely used seabird guano to fertilize their corn.Margherita Bassi (Popular Science)
Inside Switzerland's extraordinary medieval library
By Mike MacEacheran
The Abbey Library of St Gallen is a Baroque hall of globes, manuscripts and curiosities that has survived, improbably, for 1,300 years.
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Medieval library at PG:
gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/?q…
What a gem to find this link. I especially liked the quote:
" Greek inscription in bold lettering. "Psyches Iatreion," it read. "Healing place of the soul","
Desde janeiro, pesquisadores do país podem publicar trabalhos científicos em acesso aberto sem pagar pelas taxas de processamento de artigos em 1.738 revistas científicas da editora Springer Nature e 1.619 da Elsevier.Sarah Schmidt (Revista Pesquisa Fapesp)
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Eita, @Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle , não sabia dessa parada. Achei que fosse uma coisa boa.
⚒️🎒 Ever wonder what a geologist packs for a day of hunting #fossils? Crystal Cortez from the #California Academy of Sciences shares the essential tools in her field kit.
👉 Learn more: thekidshouldseethis.com/post/w…
#earthscience #earth #science #geology #howto #jobs #museum #paleontology #rocks #stem #tksst #video
A rock hammer, brushes, neck coolers, flagging tape, and hip snacks. These are some of the geology-related tools Crystal Cortez brings into the field whenRion Nakaya (The Kid Should See This)
Guilherme Ponciano de Barros, from the School of Pharmaceutical Sciences (FCF) at USP, was recognized by the Society of Toxicology (SOT) for a study comparing the impacts of conventional and...Jornal da USP
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🦉🌳 The common potoo is known for its "ghostlike" night calls and its ability to mimic a tree limb during the day.
#Biology student Mauricio Silveira shares the thrill of the hunt as he searches for this elusive species and explains why #Uruguay is such a hotspot for bird #biodiversity.
👉 Learn more: thekidshouldseethis.com/post/u…
#animals #ornithology #babies #birding #birds #nature #science #southamerica #tksst #video
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better even historians: they know, that their writings won't age well, but future colleagues will use them as sources for the times they are written in. Relaxing.
Or Sahlins in "waiting for Foucault":: "Lord Keynes didn’t tell the whole story about the long run. […] two things are certain in the long run: one is that we’ll all be dead; but another is that we’ll all be wrong. Clearly, a good scholarly career is where the first comes before the second."
Caramba! Tem cada peça linda aqui!
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#art
Crystal Hearts and Translucent Tongues Shaped Into Sculptural Works by Debra Baxter
Santa Fe-based sculptor and jewelry designer Debra Baxter combines glass, bronze, crystal, wood, and found objects to create ghostly sculptures of human forms.Kate Sierzputowski (Colossal)
Um relato de quem viveu a violência de Minneapolis como observadora e ganhou um reconhecimento inesperado por isso. A coisa lá está escalando loucamente.
E sim, eu sei que os EUA, enquanto país, estão entre os principais responsáveis por grande parte dos problemas desse mundo. Mas é importante a gente não perder a perspectiva de que nem todo mundo lá concorda com o que rola. Seria como achar que todo brasileiro é extremista de direita porque o Jair foi eleito aqui.
"I want all of us to feel more comfortable in coming forward and not be threatened by this administration on this level. The more of us that do that, the less of us are individually at risk. This is a #community of brave, courageous people, and I'm just being given an opportunity to represent that."
#pinkjacket
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Mas é importante a gente não perder a perspectiva de que nem todo mundo lá concorda com o que rola. Seria como achar que todo brasileiro é extremista de direita porque o Jair foi eleito aqui.
Essa parte aí no fediverso brasileiro fica complicada, já que tem pessoas de esquerda ( assim eles se declarando) agindo que nem fascista perverso, atacando gringo pra todo quanto é lado, com vontade de enforcar todos eles, um dia é europeu outro é americano.....🤦🏼♂️
Ahi ahi
Muito bem lembrado, @elvecioforte ! Inclusive aqueles bonés que estavam circulando pelo governo federal com a frase "O Brasil é dos brasileiros" me causaram um certo incômodo à época, porque é uma afirmação muito semelhante à "Alemanha para os alemães" (Deutschland den Deutschen) ou à "Itália para italianos" (L’Italia agli Italiani), slogans respectivamente nazista e fascista.
Entendo que a intenção não era essa aqui no Brasil, mas é importante tomarmos cuidado com aquilo que falamos.
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George Carlin famously said that politics and economy are "a big club and you ain't in it."
The #Epstein files are showing how right he was, especially this one, in which Epstein cackles with his pal Peter Thiel about how #Brexit was "just the beginning" of their plans to destroy governments and institute a "return to tribalism."
They elected Trump knowing that he is a corrupt/evil imbecile who destroys anything he touches.
It's all about buying the dip justice.gov/epstein/files/Data…
🦎❄️ When temperatures in #Florida drop below 7ºC (45°F), invasive green #iguanas undergo a strange transformation. As cold-blooded #animals, their bodies essentially "freeze" in place to protect their hearts and brains.
They lose their grip on tree branches and tumble to the ground in a state of suspended animation – usually waking back up as soon as the sun comes out.
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Iguanas stunned by cold temperatures dropped from trees in usually balmy Florida on Sunday as icy conditions blasted southern US states, dumping nearly a half-meter of snow in some areas and whipping up high winds that caused traffic chaos.AFP (ScienceAlert)
os colégios militares (que já existem a muito tempo) tem excelentes resultados em testes padronizados com alunos entrando em grandes universidades. Os próprios institutos militares (ITA, IME) tem alta qualidade de ensino. Então é bem fácil convencer o público que se o ensino é militar, se tem disciplina (nem entrar no mérito de todos os problemas de se ter a ideologia militar enfiada goela abaixo nos adolescentes) e os resultados acadêmicos são ótimos (para os critérios quantitativos que são usados).
Só se "esquecem" de dizer, que isso acontece porque esses colégios tem um financiamento muito maior que as outras escolas, que para entrar num lugar desses já tem um filtro acadêmico enorme e que se expulsam os alunos que não atingem metas. Assim é "fácil" ter bons indicadores. Mas obviamente as novas escolas aqui no Estado de SP não vão ser assim ...
Então é tipo briga perdida ... melhor continuar brigando pelo fim da 6x1 que pessoas de todas ideologias gostam de ter uma folga a mais na semana.
@renne @biloti Pra mim é daquelas pautas estruturais, independente da eleição em si.
Temos que interromper essa aberração imediatamente, sob pena de perdermos gerações.
Com o agravante de que o Novo Ensino "Mérdio" já vem condenando gerações inteiras com a ideologia da "pedagogia das competências".
Daí proponho outra pauta específica de esquerda: iniciar um processo de federalização do Ensino Médio.
@renne @biloti mostrando que outras abordagens, inclusive, a dos Institutos Federais que incluem protagonismo estudantil, espaço para participação e principalmente apoio administrativo especializado (assistência estudantil, psicólogo, etc) também funciona pra isso.
Eu sempre comparo com o campus Sertão do IFRS onde trabalhei, quase 300 adolescentes moravam na residência estudantil do campus, fora os alunos do superior, havia regras de convivência e estatutos, mas sem o fetiche da "disciplina militar", sim profissionalismo.
Mas concordo que do ponto de vista eleitoreiro pode ser mais fácil fazer o que o atual governo tem feito, discursos até contrários, mas ao mesmo tempo rendidos em teremos de ação.
@Renne Rocha não necessariamente tem que convencer as pessoas que o ensino lá é ruim. O importante é mostrar que existe muitas outras opções boas além desse modelo. Inclusive opções públicas boas com as diversas escolas federais de ensino médio e técnico do país.
Agora, sinceramente não acho que é só uma questão de convencimento. Isso porque muitas pessoas que põem seus filhos e filhas em escola militares ou anseiam pelas cívico-militares sabem muito bem como a coisa funciona lá e, de certa forma, concordam com os militares. O trabalho é anterior a esse da escola. É convencer as pessoas que a ideologia militar é que é ruim. E isso sim, vai dar um trabalho enorme...
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A philosophy webcomic about the inevitable anguish of living a brief life in an absurd world. Also Jokesexistentialcomics.com
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He wanted to use that bazooka against immigrants too.
"Hobbes rejected the natural law tradition of hospitality, which required that states take care of foreigners, and populationist arguments, which assumed that economic progress was predicated on rapid population growth."
If Hobbes viewpoint is just a formalization of chimpanzees kill-the-other-males tribalism, can we really credit him with it as Hobbsean
De autoria do deputado estadual Jessé Lopes (PL), o projeto foi aprovado pela Assembleia Legislativa de Santa Catarina (Alesc) em dezembro de 2025, juntamente com outra proposta que também veta banheiros unissex em repartições públicas.
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Redação.- Em 26 de janeiro de 2026, o governador de Santa Catarina, Jorginho Mello (PL), sancionou a Lei nº 19.686/2026, que proíbe a existência e o uso de banheiros unissex ou de gênero neutro em …Desacato
Participantes estavam chegando ao local da concentração para o ato, em frente ao Centro Administrativo, quando seguranças coagiram os manifestantes e fecharam os portões do prédio.
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Por Bia Vargas. Na manhã desta segunda-feira, 26, um evento chamado pelo Observatório de Enfrentamento ao Racismo no Estado de Santa Catarina foi alvo de censura em Florianópolis. Participantes est…Desacato
Portuguese uses two different verbs for the copula "to be", ser and estar. ser is used for relatively permanent traits like "I am a Portuguese speaker", while estar is used for temporary traits like "I am sleepy right now".
however "to be dead" uses temporary "estar" and not permanent "ser". that's because Portuguese speakers are necromancers
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💁🏻♀️ ICYMI: 🐋🌊 Imagine a 30-ton humpback #whale breaching right next to you. This footage by photographer Alvaro Herrero López shows calves practicing leaps to build strength. These breaches might also help them communicate in the noisy water.
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#animals #frenchpolynesia #underwater #water #whales #ocean #wildlife #science #marinebiology #diving #photography #education #tksst #video
To float along the surface of the ocean, with a view above and below the water as whales travel through the area, is an experience of a lifetime. To floatRion Nakaya (The Kid Should See This)
É impressionante como o conceito de extrativismo de recursos físicos se encaixa perfeitamente na relação das big techs com a Internet, que está se tornando uma cava gigante a um ritmo cada vez mais acelerado.
Just FYI: this is part of the damage being done by extractive AI companies. Their scraper bots routinely DDOS us, and they multiply to take up as much bandwidth as is available. We are having to put a huge percentage of our developers’ time into just keeping the site alive rather than building its future. They are actively destroying everything worthwhile about the internet. @hello hcommons.social/@hello/1158546…Knowledge Commons (@hello@hcommons.social)
We’re currently experiencing a widespread outage affecting access to Knowledge Commons, including KCWorks and all user sites. Our team is actively investigating and working to restore service as quickly as possible.Knowledge Commons (hcommons.social)
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Come and visit our booth this weekend at @fosdem 2026!
We’ll be in Building K, Level 2, alongside other community booths, showing the newest version of Plasma on a laptop, plus other devices like the OP6, Fairphone 5, Mecha Comet, ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16, PineTab 2, Steam Deck, and Surface running Plasma.
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O site do Senado está com uma Ideia Legislativa para as línguas indígenas serem co-oficiais junto com o português. Até hoje elas não são oficiais no brasil
A consulta fecha em CINCO DIAS e precisa de VINTE MIL APOIOS. Não temos nem 6k.
APOIEM: www12.senado.leg.br/ecidadania…
Apoie essa Ideia Legislativa: "PEC (Projeto de Emenda Constitucional) da cooficialização das línguas indígenas."Senado Federal - Programa e-Cidadania
Aproveito essa ótima notícia pra divulgar uma série de #cursos gratuitos do #ibge .
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Tem uns cursos presenciais que fiquei muito tentado a participar, mas infelizmente não vou conseguir. Entretanto tem um remoto que pode ser bem interessante pra nós da #educacao: "#IBGEeduca para #professores". É nessa quinta. Tem que fazer inscrição no link acima.
IBGE aposta em soberania digital e software livre no Plano de Trabalho 2026 – Capital DigitalSegundo o diretor de Tecnologia da Informação do IBGE, Marcos Mazoni, além de sustentar a infraestrutura que dá suporte às cerca de 340 pesquisas realizadas anualmente pelo instituto, a área de TI passa a concentrar esforços na construção de estruturas e parcerias capazes de garantir a soberania das informações e dos sistemas. “Hoje o IBGE tem uma estrutura tecnológica própria que chegou a um certo esgotamento em sua capacidade de atendimento diante do crescimento das demandas. E, evidentemente, a introdução de novas tecnologias deve ser pensada nesse processo”, afirmou.
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Durante a pandemia, criei uma versão online de uma disciplina que costumo lecionar na #Unicamp. Os vídeos estavam no YouTube.
Migrei tudo para o PeerTube! Agora o Fediverso hospeda +60 vídeos do meu curso de Cálculo Numérico. Sem propagandas. Sem apropriação indébita de seus dados.
O canal é esse aqui @numerico .
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que estranho. Será que foi algo momentâneo?
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Uma introdução à Computação Científica.Curso de Cálculo Numérico
Trump esperava legitimação global, mas obteve apenas a adesão de menos de vinte países, em sua maioria regimes autoritários, governos frágeis ou Estados dependentes da tutela norte-americana.
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Por Sayid Tenório. O anúncio feito por Donald Trump em Davos sobre a criação de um chamado “Conselho da Paz” não é um gesto de pacificação, mas um ato de engenharia política do imperialismo estadun…Desacato
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Heroic new release is finally out!
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🧠⚖️ Ever wondered why you put off big decisions? New #research suggests that the emotional pain of anticipating a negative outcome is six times stronger than the happiness of a potential gain.
This biological imbalance doesn't just make us avoid risks – it actually makes us more impatient as our #brains scramble to end the "emotional burden" of uncertainty.
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Dreading negative outcomes is six times more powerful than anticipating the positive ones.Laura Baisas (Popular Science)
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If you think technology can solve your security problems, then you don't understand the problems and you don't understand the technology.
he's not wrong. I hope it's clear that there are plenty of social and political and even technological problems that one can solve once one undertakes control of one's own digital life.
what Schneier doesn't say or mean is that technology alone can't make security problems for you. it can, and avoiding that is what the article is about
there are numerous times in which a piece of imposed computer technology requires so much privilege to be able to reject it that the rejection becomes unachievable by most, and seems far more costly (not just money-wise) than tolerating the immediate abuse. it's not so hard to understand why people so often go along with what's imposed on them. it's not every day that we get a chance to e.g. reverse engineer the tax form filling program that we must use, and make a free version thereof, or to reject contemporary means of payment when the freedom-respecting ones are phased out, or to refuse to carry a tracking device when everything and everyone expects you to have one to take a bus or the subway, to get a parking spot for your car or your bike, to see the menu at restaurants, to place your order, to pay, to do your taxes, to schedule appointments, ... I've become digitally excluded for not carrying a tracking device, for not having a device that will run all of these proprietary apps that governments and businesses take for granted nowadays. so the problems I face for my conscious choice are the flip side of the coin of problems that most people face because they can't fathom going for the alternative that also sucks. the only way we could win AFAICT is for nearly everyone to realize that this sucks and demand a respectful alternative.
@iron_bug @oigreslima Governments are trying their best to make it illegal to not have a tracking device.
The UK is planning on requiring either an Android or iOS demon rectangle to be able to work or accept unemployment payments in the future.
But even then, just try doing many things without a phone number (just having access to a phone number without a demon rectangle takes a lot of skill and a special position)
my landline in a big Brazilian city was discontinued without warning in October. I heard people in the US got early warnings and had them discontinued as well. we can't count on their remaining available.
tracking devices that won't run random apps remain available AFAIK, and they can conceivably be left in place instead of carried around, but for how long? and they do have microphones (and cameras) that can be remotely activated without warning.
in Brazil, even in the absence of laws that mandate carrying such a tracking device, the federal government has an app/website that has become the single entry point for a growing number of government services, but the website limits access to many of the essential services, demanding access from a tracking device under remote control instead.
banking for regular people has recently become impossible, as banks discontinued their web-based services and now they're in a spree of shutting down branches, forcing customers to use apps to get any service whatsoever. despite my bringing banks to court and winning, the bank ignores the court order and discontinues access to services on the website for good. so I've become digitally excluded, and now I have to rely on family members to do my banking. but that won't last long: the banks are warning they're going to demand smartphone fingerprint biometrics.
I'm happy for you that your reality is not like this nightmare (yet?). hopefully we can reverse course before it hits you.
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> the federal government has an app/website that has become the single entry point for a growing number of government services
over here they also have government "services" but I don't use it, although it's theoretically available via web, without any gadgets. I just don't want to cooperate with fascists in any way. they murder people and I hate them. so I live without any "services" from the fascist state. I don't communicate with them in any way.
>as banks discontinued their web-based services and now they're in a spree of shutting down branches, forcing customers to use apps to get any service whatsoever
that sounds bad. over here banks offer full-featured web interfaces. mainly because sanctions made it impossible to have their apps on different proprietary gadgets. unexpected positive effect from sanctions. but without any app I can pay with a card via any ATM so even if they close web there's no need to have a smartphone.
the "services" range from getting forms to pay taxes, starting businesses, getting health support, unemployment benefits, etc. depending on your privilege level, you may be able to give up rights and do without health support and various benefits, but if you try to go about without paying your taxes or fulfilling other legal obligations, you'd probably get in serious trouble. and then, when you get sued or even set out to sue the government to enforce your right to not have to use such surveillance devices, you find you have to use them to participate in the court audience (and if you don't show up you lose by default).
I regret having trusted things would remain reasonable and not acting sooner to preempt these moves
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erhm. the issue is not getting connectivity, but having to interact with parties that have power to impose their poor software choices on you
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Eu tentei ajudar partidos/coletivos comunistas a vir pra cá à toa, já os anarquistas parecem enxergar muito bem a importância da libertação da classe trabalhadora também nas redes e não só aceitaram minha ajuda como sempre souberam valorizar isso.
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a galera anarquista sempre teve como grande proponente da proteção de identidade o coletivo Riseup, com e-mail, editor de documentos online, e bem nas antiga tinha até uma rede social bem interessante, onde rolavam muitas trocas de ideias e materiais. Isso na época do orkut, se não me engano.
Foi através da galera anarquista que tive o primeiro contato com uma rede federada tbm, na época do diáspora. Pra quem circula há um tempo nesse role, essas ideias não são novidade!
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Isso é tão maravilhosamente representativo do meu dia-a-dia que parece que foi feito sob encomenda..... Obrigado por compartilhar, @VISITE O DECORADO . 😀
lembrando sempre desse meu site com a resposta fundamental (da Laerte) em momentos de crises cuidadosamente fabricadas("vídeo ao meio dia", ah vá)
🌏 This is THE thing that some people really really don't seem to get:
“...it’s taken 100 years to get the oceans that warm at depth,” he says. “Even if we stopped using fossil fuels today, it’s going to take hundreds of years for that to circulate through the ocean...”
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#climate #ocean #globalwarming #heat #hot #weather #climatechange #oceanlife #marinelife #emissions #poles #arctic #northpole #southpole #news #update #climatescience #data #earth #humanity #science
For the eighth year in a row, the world’s oceans absorbed a record-breaking amount of heat in 2025.WIRED (Ars Technica)
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Are those people really stuck on that point or is there actually nothing you can say to convince them of anything?
My child is at the point where his classes involve discussion of world news. He recently told me there’s no point in learning anything because global warming is going to ruin everything, AI will take the jobs, and he can’t make a large impact on any of these issues (we had a long discussion about this and I don’t yet know how much of his view on this has changed).
Meanwhile, my mom thinks god will take every believer to heaven, my stepfather thinks global warming is mostly a hoax by solar/wind companies to make more money, and my brother thinks AI will save us all. This group has only budged on climate issues by moving the goalposts (they started with “it’s fake”, then “it’s natural sun cycles”, then “capitalism/god will save us”), so my personal, anecdotal experience is that the people that I know that care are borderline giving up (including my spouse), and the people that don’t care have so much faith in god/money saving them that nothing is really changing.
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